I'm back. I have to run over to Home Depot and RONA in a few minutes but here's my take on the Nürburgring and why it presents different challenges for road cars than a much shorter F1 track. First, a map of the Ring with kilometer markers. Notice the course is full of many types of turns, chicanes (esses), constant rate turns, some hairpins, combinations,...etc. Image Unavailable, Please Login Here's an elevation profile of the Nordschleife (North Loop) which is where everyone goes to check their time. Notice it drops 300 meters in 8 km and then goes back up to level at "Hohe Acht" (13 km) and then down 85 meters and sort of goes up and down until 19 km when it climbs back to the original level at "Ziel" (Finish). Image Unavailable, Please Login I have not considered the banking angles as that's beyond my capacity. But anyway, the gist of what I am saying is that the Ring is not a flat, straight course. Since we are talking about long straights running up to hard corners I have located 3 of the longest and straightest sections, which happen to involve elevation changes. Here's the section between 3.5 and 5.5 kms. It winds fast to the right at the beginning and includes an elevation drop at time approaching 11% so it's fast... BUT, about halfway along this stretch, at 4.5 km it changes from steep downhill to a steep uphill before you have to take a hard right at 5.5 km. The uphill serves as natural deceleration. So it's up to the driver. If he lets up the gas and apply a bit of braking, he retains good traction and control. Image Unavailable, Please Login Here's the next section between ~6 and 9 km. It's again a fast downhill with some minor chicanes before the course makes a sweeping left turn at round 7.8 km. HOWEVER, at 8 km the steep downhill grade changes to steep uphill which again acts as natural braking, till th enext corner after about 200 meters where it becomes undulating after a sharp right corner. Image Unavailable, Please Login The sections after 8 km are uphill so braking is assisted by gravity. You just have to go easy on the gas with moderate braking if needed at all. I think most drivers will stay off their brakes to maintain optimum tire traction and tire control. Finally, at the final turn before the finish, between 19.4 km and 21 km, even though it is straight, it is a fairly steep uphill to Ziel and the rest of the way I recall from videos is also uphill, before you have to make any more turns to go back to the start. The Nordschleife is 20.8 km long so I believe I have it correctly but please correct me if I am wrong. I believe there have been changes to the course over the years. Image Unavailable, Please Login So the Ring has "safety features" which help "tourists" and other novice drivers get through it with their jalopies. You don't need a track car. I think people crash on the Ring because they are pushing themselves and their cars beyond their capabilities, and because of weather, debris, equipment failure or "other drivers".